Terror plot or Plot of Terror?

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Terror plot or Plot of Terror?

by varshakale @ 2006-08-10 – 20:58:42

I am bit confused about the news of foiling terror plot in UK. We here in India are so accustomed to news of foiling terrorist plans that it is difficult to take them seriously. Every day you open paper and you see one such news from any State. That’s why even our state government did not pay attention when there was warning from central intelligence about possible attack on transport system before Mumbai blast.

Foiling of such attacks help to build good image of the government. It is effective political strategy here. It makes me wonder whether it was terror plot or plot of terror.
I may be wrong but just suspicious.

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- mf_london
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- 2006-08-10 @ 21:06:24
They can be very useful, they distract the public opinion from other things, they can give an excuse for eroding civil rights and so on.
I don't know for sure whether it was real, overplayed or totally made up. I only know that this government has not told the truth in other occasions and would benefit from scaring the country, therefore nothing would surprise me much.
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- varshakale
- 2006-08-10 @ 21:17:23
Terrorism is not just useful for perpetrators but also politicains and governments
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- deleted user (Visitor)
- 2006-08-10 @ 21:33:39
I agree with the above. Even if true it was very conveniant timing for a government under a lot of pressure over things they will be glad to see out of the head lines.
- - varshakale
  - 2006-08-10 @ 21:40:03
  Thats what makes me look at it with skepticism. Whenever government faces any heat of its actions or inactions it has got route to escape from people's wrath. In my state farmers are commiing suicide evryday and govt. has failed to provide basic security, but it can get away with catching some terrorists here and there. It is strengthening bad governance atleast in India for sure.
  - - deleted user (Visitor)
    - 2006-08-10 @ 21:46:03
    I'm very interested in India and read about your poor farmers. Govt. for the people, by the people - now that's a laugh, in all countries.
    - - varshakale
      - 2006-08-10 @ 22:01:13
      Oh. India do have democracy but without good governance. Even if you change the government every time the situation remains same. Now the politicains have realised that people have no real alternative. They can mis govern and till get vote by default.
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- Camelien (Visitor)
- 2006-08-10 @ 22:11:55
Bang on again wise woman, am actually writing this response at the library next to a woman who's 'half in the bag' on alcohol spewing disbelief and condemantion of me for agreeing with you. Of course, I voiced aloud before her spew. "What a crock of shite!"

Yes, the 'plot of terror' is perfect timing for those skull & bones cabalists' in power crumbling in the pols.
- - varshakale
  - 2006-08-10 @ 22:35:40
  At least in India it has helped govt. and politicians to hide their inefficiancy. There is nothing wrong in being skeptical about such things I beleive.
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- skip2468
- 2006-08-10 @ 22:31:22
My clock suggests that you must be up and about very early in the day.

Regarding terrorism, a terrible situation on its own but when various political influences become involved it can become even worse!
- - varshakale
  - 2006-08-10 @ 22:41:02
  Its 3:15 am here.
  Surely the situaion is worsening as those who commit terror act can do it by just doing it but many governments can spread terror without doing anything.
  Am I listening to your advice skip?
  - - neilemac
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    - 2006-08-10 @ 23:09:51
    I ditto your reluctance to take reports at face value Varsha; especially having been hoodwinked by the now 'infamous' memo on WMDs coming from the UK which triggered the exuse for America's invasion and eventual destruction of Iraq so their crony corporations could rob them of oil resources and get to rebuild it. (Does Haliburton ring a bell?)
    
    Too bad they all got caught in their own trap, well not the cabal itself but by their conditioned to be inhumane military which is still reeling from losses as I write this, let alone the thousands of innocent Iraqi people they were supposed to liberate and give 'freedom and democracy.' HA! They don't even have it at home. And when it is practiced, the 'neocon' dissenter pulls the plug on the results and runs as an independent (US Conneticut Democrat primary election Lieberman yesterday).
    
    The sudden release of, as you say, 'plot of terror', arrived right on cue to gather sympathy for the crumbling Republican support in the polls. Did someone say it's time for a revolt?
    
    Now you get to bed sweetheart, we need your voice strong to speak up on more unfolding crises to talk and write about certain to be more horror tomorrow.
    - - varshakale
      - 2006-08-11 @ 10:07:56
      I just came today and saw your comment. Thanks.
      Actually I am concern about perception of security in the eyes of people and states. These security measures, rhetoric, action against terror attacks give false sense of security to people. The concept of security should not become so narrow because of this present situation. Government should not allow to derive political advantages. There should be more concern about wider security ISSUES for women, farmers, urban poor, especially in countries like India. But this terror and counter terror menace is narrowing focus of security for State and they are using it to cary out their political agenda.
      - neilemac
        
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        2006-08-11 @ 14:10:22
        
        My post yesterday explains a great deal by clicking on 'Source' at it's base; but you can google "WHY WE FIGHT", it'll be the first to pop up. The whole world should see the film but the trailers at the site will astound, enlighten, and sorry to say, may terrify you; but you'll witness actual factual events and policies resulting in modern day deviant 'empire' building around the globe.
        
        Goggle "Operation Northwoods" for a glimpse at a pre nine eleven (by decades) covert plan to invade Cuba. It's description is awesomely similar the that most recent outrageous event.
        
        Heard a great response by a seasoned national journalist yesterday on the news...
        "..maybe now the airlines will be forced to feed its passengers again." (having banned carry-on drinks, containers, etc.
        
        But 'fear' tactics were used by Hitler to promulgate (there's always a 'gate') his fascism on the German Republic.
        
        History always seems to find a way to repeat itself, could it be the fault of the gullible 'sheeple?' (rhetorical)
        
        Either way, it appears your government in India has learned well the ways of the supposed to be defunct 'Raj', too.
        
        Keep up the good fight for justice Varsha, write on!
        
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        varshakale
        
        2006-08-11 @ 14:23:58
        
        Surely I would like to view uch material, thanks for this information.
        Regarding our government, its true, they are very good at it.
        
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- 2006-08-10 @ 23:00:58
Hope it has been foiled completely.
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- 2006-08-11 @ 04:38:01
Hello, good I create q these things never are going to finish, and the truth this thing of the attacks is horrible, I I do not understand whereupon reason kills so many innocents, that is my simple and humble opinion, kisses until soon
- - varshakale
  - 2006-08-11 @ 09:54:23
  Its cruel and absurd to kill people for whatever reasons and grivances. But we should not allow democratic governments to use terror threats for their own petty political advantages.
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- elliehutch
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- 2006-08-11 @ 09:24:43
John Reid-Defence Secretary gave a speech on Thursday about "imminant plots" and the need for the public to basically do away with any ideas of normal human rights (ie trials, freedom of movement etc) and then strangely enough a terror plot has been foiled.

I think that British Intelligence and Government are looking to justify the mess they've made around the world and its very unpopular support of Israel in the Israel/Lebanon conflict, and a close call of mass murder provides a better justification than any rhetoric can.
However, I don't think it was a complete farce, I think that there probably was some sort of threat and there may have been many more that haven't been publicised, but this one was needed to be in the public eye. On another note-George Bush thanked the UK for our "co-operation". The UK is not just an apendege of the US Mr Bush.
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- varshakale
- 2006-08-11 @ 09:49:37
No I dont think it was total 'farce'. But govt.s all over the world tend to present big things 'smaller' and small things 'bigger' according to their political necessities. Moreover in India state has failed to provide basic 'human security' to majority of population. Farmers are committing suicides everyday. However govt can show that it is quite concern about security of the people by rhetoric and some sporadic actions against terrorism.
Thanks ellihutch
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- Voice_of_reluctant_dissent
- 2006-08-11 @ 11:46:04
To echo a comment in a recent interview by US Secretary of State Condeleeza Rice, the Chinese character for "crisis" contains elements that describe both "danger" and "opportunity".

While the danger may have been real, the UK government has certainly capitalised on the opportunity of yesterday's crisis to deflect our attention from elsewhere and reinforce a culture of fear that supports their current policies.

We'll have to wait and see how real and imminent the danger was until the evidence is revealed (*if* it is revealed...). And those arrested are suspects at this stage, no more, until they have their day in court. It is for a court alone to determine their guilt -- and that thankful fact separates us from terrorists and their agenda.
- - varshakale
  - 2006-08-11 @ 11:59:40
  Surely Voice of reluctant dissent.
  Real or otherwise it is narrowing definition of security, from larger 'human security' to security from terror'. Security from terror is essential but not adequate to cover security concerns of common people.
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